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28 Feb 2005 No. 4
On February 17, the two candidates for state
superintendent of public instruction, incumbent Elizabeth Burmaster
(Madison) and challenger Gregg Underheim (Oshkosh), answered questions
at a forum organized by WisPolitics.com. Responses are summarized here.
Both candidates had one minute to respond to each question with no
provision for rebuttals. As the result of a coin toss, Ms. Burmaster
choose to answer all questions second.
Capitol notes
n Get
to know the candidates for state superintendent . . . Elizabeth
Burmaster (Madison) has held the post for the past four years and is
seeking a second term. She has over 30 years’ experience as a teacher
and principal.

A former teacher, Gregg Underheim (Oshkosh) is
currently a state representative. He was first elected in a 1987 special
election. In 1997, he made a previous run for superintendent.
n The
legislature’s joint committee on finance will hold five hearings on
the state budget during March. The locations and dates are: Watertown
(9th); Cleveland (11th); UW-Stout (14th); Merrill (15th); and the State
Capitol (17th).
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O n April 5, Wisconsin voters
will elect either incumbent Elizabeth Burmaster (B) or State Rep. Gregg
Underheim (U) to head the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction for
the next four years. Candidate responses at a recent forum follow.
"Two-thirds"
school funding
n Do you support two-thirds
funding for schools and why?
U. said the two-thirds funding decision will be
made by the legislature. Priorities need to be set to balance funding
among all programs, including education. One area "cannot demand all
resources," he said.
B. expressed support for two-thirds funding, noting
that it means $850 million in property tax relief. It "will ensure
the level of quality Wisconsin citizens expect and," she continued,
"ease tension between property taxpayers and schools."
Property-tax "freeze"
n Which property-tax freeze do
you support [governor’s or legislature’s]?
U. said we need to freeze property taxes in the
state and let the legislature’s joint committee on finance determine how
much money will go to education. He noted that "the cost of public
education is undermining public support."
B: "I will not support any proposal that does
not protect education . . . Yes, there must be property-tax relief and the
proposal for two-thirds funding is the way to get there." B.
indicated support for the governor’s proposal.
School choice
n Should private school choice
be expanded beyond Milwaukee?
U. supports expanding private school choice where
poor school quality leads parents to demand alternatives. Students should
not have to attend schools where over 50% of ninth graders do not
graduate. Added U: "Anytime schools are so bad in this state, we need
to give options." He favors raising the Milwaukee private school cap
[on enrollment].
B. said schools in Milwaukee are moving in the
right direction—third-grade reading scores are at their highest. She
continued, "My job as superintendent is to ensure accountability,
equity and quality of all education systems that use taxpayer dollars;
until education accountability is in place, I do not support the expansion
of private school choice."
Class size
n What is the ideal class size?
U. backed a local-control approach to class size.
Ideal size "is a decision that ought to be made in local school
districts," he stated.
B. endorsed the 15-to-1 pupil-teacher ratio of the
state’s SAGE program for "closing the gap in achievement."
[SAGE reduces K-3 class sizes in needy schools.]
Qualified economic offer (QEO)
n Are teachers over or
underpaid?
U. supports the QEO [which limits teacher
compensation growth]. He noted that, although Minnesota’s salaries are
higher than Wisconsin’s, total compensation, with benefits, is greater
here. U. said our teachers are "compensated at a high level compared
to our incomes and ability to pay."
B. sees teacher quality as one of the most
important factor in student success. She called the QEO "a roadblock
to reform" and said that failure to repeal it will present problems
in recruiting and retaining good teachers.
Passion for education
n What is your vision for
improving education . . . ?
U: "I have an intense passion for serving the
needs of children, not serving the needs of the teachers’
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union." U. advocates more technology in schools to
promote quality and to control cost. With technology, high-achieving and
lagging students succeed, he said.
B: "My passion comes from having dedicated my life
to education." Noting that she is a third-generation teacher, B. said she
wants every child to have the same opportunity as hers. She add-ed that we
must ensure "opportunity, equity and access to quality education."
Teacher training
n How would you improve teacher
training?
U: "The teaching of teachers has to be a
research-based endeavor. It currently is not." U. said we must put in
schools people who understand what educational approaches have worked.
B: "There is no more sound education research than
that related to early childhood education." B. said she also implemented
reform of teacher certification, education and licensing.
Successful schools
n Why are some schools more
successful and why do costs vary?
U: "According to reliable analyses, there is no
relationship between spending and test results." Noted U., "Quality
is not a product of spending. It’s not about how much you spend."
B. observed that schools throughout our state face
different fiscal challenges. Costs vary because school districts have
different needs. "We need to close the gap in achievement . . . our
economy depends on it." If we don’t, we’ll pay later in social and
corrections programs.
Bilingual education
n Do you support bilingual
education?
U: "The most important thing we can do for kids is
make certain they speak English. The more rapidly we get them into English,
the more rapidly they will succeed in this society." U. favors moving
children out of bilingual education more rapidly.
B. says she supports bilingual education: "My
education budget calls for increased bilingual/bicultural categorical aid. In
the last decade, our English language learners have doubled, while enrollment
has dropped."
Special education
n What are your views on special
education services?
U: "We must serve the needs of special education
students." U. said that effective evaluations that avoid
overidentification help ensure sufficient funding: If the program works,
students leave it, freeing funds for others.
B. stressed the importance of parental involvement in
special education, stating, "They are the first and most important
teachers." She noted that, as state superintendent, she has directed
federal funds to high-needs students with disabilities.
Closing remarks
U. finished his part of the forum
by urging education reform in Wisconsin. According to him, the superintendent
must be more supportive of technology in schools; shutting down virtual
schools was not a good decision. U. added: "The department can no longer
be a tool and public relations arm of the teachers’ union." Wisconsin’s
education system needs a new voice that will stand up to interest groups, and
U. said he is that voice.
B: "We have a lot of work ahead of us in the next
four years. We’ve had a quality education system, but we are experiencing as
a state some unprecedented fiscal challenges." B. said she is working to
ensure that our educational efforts will promote the state’s economic
success. B. closed with a request: "I ask for your support to do what’s
best for our children, best for our community and best for the long-term
future of our state."
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Referendum on County Officers’ Terms.
A proposed constitutional amendment to
lengthen certain county officers’ terms by two years will be submitted
to the voters at the Tuesday, April 5, spring election. The wording on
the ballot will be:
"4-year terms of office for certain county
officers. Shall section 4 of article VI and section 12 of article
VII of the constitution be amended to provide that district attorneys,
coroners, elected surveyors, registers of deeds, treasurers, county
clerks, and clerks of circuit court be elected to 4-year terms?"
Proponents contend that lengthening the terms will
enable officeholders to concentrate more on performing their duties and
less on running for office. Since elections would be every four years
instead of every two, campaign costs would be greatly reduced, they say.
In addition, for a newly elected official, four years would allow more
time to become acquainted with the authority and duties of the office.
Opponents counter that a four-year term will make the
officeholders less accountable to the voters. They suggest that more
frequent campaigning keeps officials more in touch with citizen
concerns. Those opposing extension also maintain that two years is
sufficient for a first-time officeholder to learn the responsibilities
of a new job.
A vote "yes" would favor the four-year term. A vote
"no" would continue the current two-year term arrangement.
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